Hi guys,
I don't know kung may related trhead na ito. Nag search ako walang nakita. Uw poi ako ng pinas this Fri na, 1 week lang stay sa atin at balik ulit ng Nihon. Dati tourist lang visa ko but this time i have working visa. So, in related to this, i heard unconfirmed info na may docs pa raw na dapat kunin sa POEA or OWA pra i-presenta sa immigration sa atin kung bumalik na ng dito. Anybody has idea on this? Your advice is highly appreciated and thanks a lot in advance!
Hi guys,
I don't know kung may related trhead na ito. Nag search ako walang nakita. Uw poi ako ng pinas this Fri na, 1 week lang stay sa atin at balik ulit ng Nihon. Dati tourist lang visa ko but this time i have working visa. So, in related to this, i heard unconfirmed info na may docs pa raw na dapat kunin sa POEA or OWA pra i-presenta sa immigration sa atin kung bumalik na ng dito. Anybody has idea on this? Your advice is highly appreciated and thanks a lot in advance! Hi Buddy! pumasok ka ba ng Japan as tourist at dito mo nakuha ang sinasabi mong working visa o may kumpanya na nagpaalis sa iyo?
Hi guys,
I don't know kung may related trhead na ito. Nag search ako walang nakita. Uw poi ako ng pinas this Fri na, 1 week lang stay sa atin at balik ulit ng Nihon. Dati tourist lang visa ko but this time i have working visa. So, in related to this, i heard unconfirmed info na may docs pa raw na dapat kunin sa POEA or OWA pra i-presenta sa immigration sa atin kung bumalik na ng dito. Anybody has idea on this? Your advice is highly appreciated and thanks a lot in advance!
Bud, if it states there in passport that you have a working visa - the immigration officer in Manila might demand you produce an OWWA Membership card. They claim that any Filipino - direct hire or not is an OFW and should enlist in the owwa program (exception to those who have greencards or eijuken from foreign lands). If you do not have this - their tendency is to make it complicated and prevent you from taking the plane. Stupid as it is - two out three sa aming pinoy staff missed their planes two years ago. They were only allowed to pass through immigration one week after enrolling in the owwa program, attending the seminar, payment of a 100 dollar fee and after the urusai screenings of their contracts (which I unfortunately had to contest as well..)
From the POEA (http://www.poea.gov.ph/html/FAQ.html) FAQ:
I was able to secure a work visa from a foreign country. Do I need to go through POEA for processing of my documents? What are the requirements?
Yes, you need to have your documents processed at POEA. A visa merely allows entry into another country. It does not specify the terms and conditions of work for a particular employer. Name hires or Filipino workers who have found jobs on their own should have their documents processed at POEA. The requirements are the following: passport, work visa or work permit, employment contract verified or authenticated by the Philippine embassy or Philippine consulate in the country of your destination. You are also required to undergo a medical examination by a DOH-accredited clinic or hospital (http://www.doh.gov.ph/clinics/clinic_1.htm) and a pre-departure orientation seminar.
I am spending my vacation in the Philippines and will go back to my employer after one month. Do I have to go through POEA processing all over again?
No, you need not go through the whole process again. Your employer and employment contract were already verified. As a returning overseas Filipino worker or balik-manggagawa, all you have to do is secure an overseas employment certificate (OEC) at the POEA Balik-Manggagawa Processing Division, regional centers and satellite offices and some Philippine Overseas Labor Offices to enable you to leave the country again and avail of the same privileges such as exemption from travel tax and airport terminal fee.
You can also try asking the Philippine Overseas Labor Office at the embassy. Goodluck.
buddy,pag uwi mo pumunta ka sa POEA at mag apply ka ng OEC.dahil nakapag wrk ka na sa jpn,malamang iko-consider ka nang balik-mangagawa(tulad ko na student to engr visa dati)at pagbibigyan ka nang makakuha ng OEC ng di dumadaan sa seminar at physical exam.
kung sakali at nabago na ang rules,medyo papahirapan ka nila doon.papakuhanin ka ng physical exam sa mga accredited clinics nila (kuno),a-attend sa seminar na para bang nahulian ka ng traffic violation, at dadaan sa maraming pila na para ka rin nasa disneyland.
bukod dito,ang pinaka mahirap ay bibigyan ka ng isang english na dokumento na parang confirmation,ipapa-fax sa sa boss mo sa jpn para pirmahan at ipa-fax ulit ng boss sa iyo at isabmit ulit sa POEA.paghandaan mo ito dahil kung hindi ka handa,napakahirap. bukod sa dapat mong i-explain sa boss mo by long distance kung ano yun para pirmahan nya,dapat may fax ka din na naka standby para i-resib ang pirmadong dokumento.
lastly,wag mong kalimutan ang english contract mo.
bukod dito,ang pinaka mahirap ay bibigyan ka ng isang english na dokumento na parang confirmation,ipapa-fax sa sa boss mo sa jpn para pirmahan at ipa-fax ulit ng boss sa iyo at isabmit ulit sa POEA.paghandaan mo ito dahil kung hindi ka handa,napakahirap. bukod sa dapat mong i-explain sa boss mo by long distance,dapat may fax ka din na naka standby.
lastly,wag mong kalimutan ang english contract mo.
Basically, the POEA will scrutinize your contract and try to find faults. They would want to make it comply with their standard set of conditions (for the interest of the OFW daw). So they require the foreign employers to agree in writing (thus the fax) or for you the employee to waive.
Hi Buddy, dagdag ko lang doon sa info na naibigay na ni ganda_girl89. Kung ano yung ipinasa dito ng Boss mo sa Immigration, hingi ka ng kahit xerox copies noon at dumaan ka sa embassy natin or consulate labor office. Tapos hingi ka lang ng endorsement. Tapos ipakita mo doon sa POEA Balik-Mangagawa section.
Dahil kung saka sakaling may hihingin pa silang mga original copies madali kang makakakuha dahil nandito ka pa sa Japan.
Good luck!:)
I find this attempt by the Philippine government to extract fees out of OFWs to be one of the lowest and most despicable forms of usury. They simply want your money, by hook or by crook. Bagong bayani daw... tama, dahil ang bayani, mina-martir at binabaril!!
You got your job abroad, and converted into a working visa abroad. The Philippine government had nothing to do with this, and therefore should have no right to impose anything on you.
Note that they are asking to check your contract. If you "do not have" a contract, then there is nothing for them to check. If you are not a contractual worker who has to renew his contract yearly (or whatever interval), then you should not be covered by this POEA bullshit. (Note that in the 1970's, the term used was OCW - overseas contract workers, which was later expanded to OFW to cover the wider range of Filipinos working abroad.)
To me, tarayan lang yan sa airport. Are you the type who looks "mabilis apihin"? Then for sure they will try to give you hell. Only you can be the judge of this: mukha ka bang cheap na OFW? If you look like an expat who earns zillions, the immigration officer at NAIA will not have the balls to even ask you anything.
I remember having been asked once many many years ago by an immigration officer where my POEA stamp was. He was probably wanting to make a quick buck from lagay - poor guy didn't realize the Pandora's box he opened. Sabi ko, "Mukha ba akong contractual na laborer sa 'yo? Anong POEA-POEA ang hinihingi mo? Gago ka ba? Tatakan mo na yang passport ko para di ka na magka-problema. Kung gusto mo nang gulo, kita tayo sa korte, demandahin kita ng violation of basic right to travel. Anong pangalan mo?" Ayun, may sinabi pa ba siya?
Since you have a valid visa to enter the country you are going to, they really cannot stop you from leaving unless you are a criminal or political detainee on a travel ban list. Kaya ako, sa Pinas, I put on my most mataray "go-ahead-and-make-my-day" face when dealing with any government office. If an immigration officer leafs through the pages of my passport taking more time than what I think is necessary for him to do his job (in short, he is stalling), I preempt him and ask "Bakit, may problema ba?" As long as you are not guilty of anything, you can treat him as a servant - for that is what they are: public servants whose salary you are paying!!
Of course, whether this will work for you is something you will have to decide for yourself. Maybe v_wrangler has more experience on this in his dealings with his staff - since mine is just a personal one.
(Sorry, mag-o-off-thread ako: Pinoys should stop treating our bureaucrats & government workers with too much deference. Sir dito, Ma'am doon. Kaya lumalaki ang mga ulo ng mga yan. Pwede ba? Tayo ang nagbabayad ng sweldo nila! I have never addressed anyone in the Philippine Embassy as "sir" or "ma'am", except for the ambassador and only by virtue of his position - not the person. It's always "Mr. de la Cruz" or "Ms. Reyes", no more and no less.)
Goodmorning guys!
Maraming salamat sa reply ninyo! I really appreciate your prompt advice. Now, exactly alam ko ang tamang move. I need OEC as i got my working visa when i was in Phil 4months ago. Several times i travel Japan before with tourist visa kaya walang problema. However, pagbalik ko dito after one week, i have one day only schedule back to Phil again on early April for a company business trip kaya nakita ko ang malaking problema ay ang pagkuha ulit ng OEC sa OWWA. May exemptions kaya sa ganitong case ko dahil wala na akong time kumuha noon or maari kayang mag advance na lang kuha on OEC habang dun ako sa atin? Well, try ko na lang itanong ito sa OWWA but if someone outthere has an experience of the same kind. I'm glad and appreciate to hear your story. Best regards!
Goodmorning guys!
Maraming salamat sa reply ninyo! I really appreciate your prompt advice. Now, exactly alam ko ang tamang move. I need OEC as i got my working visa when i was in Phil 4months ago. Several times i travel Japan before with tourist visa kaya walang problema. However, pagbalik ko dito after one week, i have one day only schedule back to Phil again on early April for a company business trip kaya nakita ko ang malaking problema ay ang pagkuha ulit ng OEC sa OWWA. May exemptions kaya sa ganitong case ko dahil wala na akong time kumuha noon or maari kayang mag advance na lang kuha on OEC habang dun ako sa atin? Well, try ko na lang itanong ito sa OWWA but if someone outthere has an experience of the same kind. I'm glad and appreciate to hear your story. Best regards!
one biggest disadvantage of getting working visa here and not in the philippines is pag uuwi ka na and at the time the pagbalik mo here in japan, kailangan mo talagang dumaan sa poea. otherwise di ka talaga makakabalik here. do the processing na binigay na on the above post. in my case, sa pinas ko nakakuha ng working visa. so kapag umuuwi ako di na ko dumadaan sa poea. when my COE expired, sa OWWA sa NAIA na lang ko kumukuha. pero sinasabi pa rin nila na kailangan ko daw bumalik sa poea, pero reason ko is maikli lang ang vacation ko or emergency lang kaya di na ko nakakabalik don. the good thing kapag dumaan ka sa poea is makakakuha ka ng libreng travel tax. pero sa ginastos mong bayaran din, parang same lang o lugi ka pa.
just a tip, better to ride some other airlines and not PAL. why? kasi pag sa PAL ka sumakay, sa centennial ang baba at sakay mo. pag nagka aberya sa documents mo, you must go to the OWWA office wherein sa NAIA lang meron. so kailangan mo pa tumakbo don. i experienced this before. talagang pinapunta pa ko don para makakuha ng bagong COE certificate. muntik na kong di makasakay sa plane. buti na lang at umabot ako. i wonder kung bakit walang OWWA sa CENTENNIAL. meron na kaya ngayon? wala man lang kaisip isip iyong mga government official sa atin. pinahihirapan mga ofw. sabagay bayani naman daw tayo kaya kailangan pakita mo na handa mong kayanin lahat ng problemang bigay nila. he he he. hope this info give you some tip. GOOD LUCK!:)
Bale OEC talaga ang kailangan mo pagbalik. At para di ka pabalikbalik sa OWWa punta ka na muna ng PHILHEALTH bayad ka ng 900pesos, then punta ka na ng OWWA dalhin mo ang reciept ng PHILHEALTH at magbabayad ka ng 1275pesos for OWWA membership at 100pesos for OEC.
Mas ok kung sa provincial branch ka ng OWWA pupunta kung sa province ka uuwi..... mas madali ang processing, walang pila.
OK von voyage.
Goodmorning guys!
Maraming salamat sa reply ninyo! I really appreciate your prompt advice. Now, exactly alam ko ang tamang move. I need OEC as i got my working visa when i was in Phil 4months ago. Several times i travel Japan before with tourist visa kaya walang problema. However, pagbalik ko dito after one week, i have one day only schedule back to Phil again on early April for a company business trip kaya nakita ko ang malaking problema ay ang pagkuha ulit ng OEC sa OWWA. May exemptions kaya sa ganitong case ko dahil wala na akong time kumuha noon or maari kayang mag advance na lang kuha on OEC habang dun ako sa atin? Well, try ko na lang itanong ito sa OWWA but if someone outthere has an experience of the same kind. I'm glad and appreciate to hear your story. Best regards!
By the way.... kung wala pang 1 year since you got your OEC (meaning di pa expired yon) allowed kang yon ulit ang gamitin mo.
Another tip kung talagang walang kang time para dito.... let somebody from your family pay the Philhealth bago ka pa dumating ....and bring your old OEC with you dahil pwedeng sa OWWA counter sa airport ka na lang kumuha ng OEC, just the same dalhin mo yong reciept ng Philhealth.
Soyyr to confused you guys. Ang working visa ko ay sa pinas ko nakuha. Dumaan ako sa POEA/OWWA as name hired dahil hndi pwede mag exit sa airport kung walang certificate & other docs.
@striver
Parang may office na ata sa terminal 2,napansin ko. Let me check again, balitaan kita.
@lymed
Hindi ko alam na kailangan pa magbayad sa Philhealth. Nagbayad na ata ako nung pagpunta ko dito last Dec '05. Anyways, thanks sa input. Sana pwede magbigay ang OWWA ng 1yr or more valid na COE.
Soyyr to confused you guys. Ang working visa ko ay sa pinas ko nakuha. Dumaan ako sa POEA/OWWA as name hired dahil hndi pwede mag exit sa airport kung walang certificate & other docs.
@striver
Parang may office na ata sa terminal 2,napansin ko. Let me check again, balitaan kita.
@lymed
Hindi ko alam na kailangan pa magbayad sa Philhealth. Nagbayad na ata ako nung pagpunta ko dito last Dec '05. Anyways, thanks sa input. Sana pwede magbigay ang OWWA ng 1yr or more valid na COE.
Requirement sa OWWA ang Philhealth, yong dating medicare na binabayaran ng OFWs in-indorse na ng OWWA sa Philhealth for whatever reason:rolleyes: bale 450pesos semi annual ang bayad don.... if you paid last Dec. '05 valid pa yon hanggang ngayon.
Aware ako jan kasi OFW din ang husband ko at trice or twice a year ang uwi nya... the last was last Dec. at kasama nya pa akong kumuha ng OEC.
1 year 1 year lang ang validity ng OEC. Anyway as i've said before, madali lang kumuha lalo kung sa province ka.... check mo d2 kung saan ang nearest office sa lugar mo.
OWWA: http://www.owwa.gov.ph
Philhealth: http://www.philihealth.gov. ph
Buddy,
Pre, congrats!! May working visa ka na!! Ganun din me noon. Dependent visa lang but I didnt have to go home. I was able to changed or convert my visa here. If you really have to go, I think you need to register sa POEA and OWWA as a FILIPINO OVERSEAS CONTRACT WORKER (OFW). You will receive a certificate and an electronic card. Happy trip!!!
garfield
Good morning Buddy!
Maitanong lang po kung ano ang ginawa nyo pag-uwi.
Kumuha po ba kayo ng OEC sa POEA?
Paki-share naman po ang experience nyo.
Dumaan pa rin ba kayo sa seminars(PDOS) at medical exam?
Kasi may kakilala ako na dependent visa sya dati tapos nakakuha ng working visa this year na yearly ang renewal.
Balak nya umuwi next year pero di nya alam kung ano mga requirements para makakuha ng OEC.
Thanks!
Compulsory ho ba ang pagkuha ng OEC sa POEA? Ako kasi dating dependent visa ang hawak ko tapos after almost a year nag-apply ako dito at nabigyan ako ng instructor visa(3 years renewable). Umuwi ako last year pero wala namang hinanap kahit ano sa akin maliban sa passport. Nakabalik ako dito na walang kaalam-alam sa OEC na yan. Bakit ganun iba-iba yata ang experiences natin tungkol dito. Sana may makapagpaliwanag pa tungkol dito.
